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  • 10 May 2018 4:09 PM
    Message # 6147983
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    What are your challenges around food and other "edible" substances? What has been helpful for you in working with these challenges?

  • 11 May 2018 1:38 PM
    Reply # 6149284 on 6147983

    I've always been a healthy eater with the occasional trip off to a Wendy's Frosty. Eating healthy is not a big deal nor is it difficult but in America's processed foods reign. The other factor to a poor diet is the abundance of choices.  Those for me make eating healthy quite difficult.  You would think that being able to buy imported foods in order to eat healthily is a boom, I do not believe it is.  As much as I love eating heart of palm year round, I know it's destroying forests, reducing the amount of drinkable water and exploiting workers were heart of palm is harvested. The same goes for almonds. They are notorious consumers of water.  I realize trade is important but at what point does it become a detriment to the environment?  How do we support our international and intranational trade partners without causing harm? Is it truly necessary for us to have peaches year round? Where do they come from? Who are exploited? What chemicals are being used to preserve them as they travel from the Pacific coast to the Atlantic?  The best choice is to buy local, buy when items are in season, look for items not heavily processed and be mindful of where things are produced.


  • 14 May 2018 3:32 PM
    Reply # 6171008 on 6147983
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

         Since my entrance into the path of Dharma, I have brought mindfulness to the area of edible foods and other substances in several significant ways.  Two of the more significant were that I stopped eating meat and animal products, and I stopped smoking cigarettes.  Stopping smoking was by far the more difficult of the two, as smoking had become my coping mechanism for any emotional affliction no matter how small.      

            I made both of these changes in basically the same way.  I reflected deeply on the suffering my purchase and intake of these products caused myself, those around me, the environment, and society.  I reflected in this way not once, not twice, but over and over again.  I also reflected repeatedly on my aspiration to free myself of suffering, to be of benefit to others, and to be a person who could make healthy choices in his life.  I was so sick of living a life characterized by suffering and wanted so much to have a lifestyle in-line with my deeper aspirations.

         Once stopping, a key understanding I developed was that I could not get rid of the cravings that would arise, for cigarettes or animal products, but I could change how I responded to the cravings once they arose.  With a keen eye on what was arising in my mind, whenever I noticed a craving, I would hold it in mindfulness, remember my aspiration, reflect on the suffering following that craving would cause, and then either let it go, or do something healthier instead.  In this way, I changed my habitual reaction to the cravings that arose, and eventually, the cravings even stopped appearing altogether.   I have now been a Vegan and a non-smoker for close to 10 years.  

        A current challenge is that I do go a little heavy on coffee and tea throughout the day.  I have experimented with cutting out caffeine, and I have done well for awhile, but then I do tend to go back to it.  Part of the difficulty for me is that I often struggle with a fair amount of fatigue and use caffeine as a type of self-medication.  I have been introducing more exercise into my life which certainly seems to be a key factor, but often it is difficult to fit it into my schedule.  In addition, a recent blood test showed that I was fairly deficient in vitamins and minerals. Although my wife and I tend to eat pretty healthy,  we are now making sure that we are eating more fresh vegetables, and taking the appropriate supplements.  Making salads at lunch certainly takes more time than a peanut butter sandwich, but it is well worth the extra effort.  

          I am learning that a key aspect of consuming in a healthy way is having a lifestyle that supports that type of consumption.  Being overly booked and constantly busy does not allow the time needed to take care of this body in the appropriate way.  Although I want to be able to engage in activities that benefit others, I am realizing that giving this body the needed care is vital to that end.  I am now looking deeply at my life in order to ensure that I have time to exercise, prepare more healthy meals, and take care of this body in other ways.  It is a work in progress, and I am grateful to Fred for making this area a focus to help us all shine some light on potentially unhealthy habits. 

  • 14 May 2018 7:42 PM
    Reply # 6176990 on 6147983

    This month I'm cold turkey on sugar (and foods containing corn syrup). Aware of my capability for addiction, sugar's poisonous effect (at least to my body), and a commitment to take care of this body in the service of the dharma.

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  • 14 May 2018 10:32 PM
    Reply # 6180905 on 6147983
    Deleted user

    You are all inspiring me. I stopped smoking almost 30 years ago and drinking 12 years ago. But now it’s time to look at sugar. It’s a wonderful idea for me to cut it mostly from my diet. For me, unless I’m doing it short term, an all or nothing approach won’t be helpful. However, I do tend to eat some form of sugar every night unless I have a firm commitment. And I am committed! I appreciate our lovely group and your loving support.  With metta

  • 15 May 2018 9:53 AM
    Reply # 6197869 on 6147983
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I constantly try to remember the middle way on all things, including eating/drinking.  My tendency is to overeat if I am particularly hungry and/or it's later in the day; coupled with a habit of eating very fast, I realize it's not healthy for my body/mind.  The heavy feeling after overeating is both physical and mental, and is palpable.   I find that when I consciously slow down, chew the food mindfully and in appreciation I notice when my hunger has been satisfied rather than continuing to eat, which results in a healthier, and happier, body/mind.  


    The slowing down also keeps me in gratitude to the all the causes that led to the food being on my plate, from the earth/elements/atmosphere to the people whose work allowed it to be there, to the food itself.  When I eat too fast, don't properly chew the food, it is a mindless exercise and also limits the absorption of the nutrients into my body.


    I find that remembering why I'm eating in the bigger picture of intentionality - meaning realizing my body is my vehicle in this life and what I value and how I want to be in this life is inextricably tied to this body's life - is of great help - when I remember to remember.

  • 15 May 2018 10:13 AM
    Reply # 6198498 on 6147983

    A number of years ago, Barbara Kingsolver wrote a book called Animal Vegetable Miracle.  It documented her family's efforts to eat only locally for a full year, and is both a fascinating and informative read with recipes in the back.  I found it very inspiring, and it really changed my level of effort to buy local whenever possible.  I am aware that I have the financial ability to do so that not everyone in America has.  That is a political challenge that persons more skillful than I will find ways to address.  What I can do is make my financial choices, and food choices, to support the local farmers and keep that momentum of awareness and opportunity growing; thus it benefits me in the short term and many others in the long term.

  • 15 May 2018 7:37 PM
    Reply # 6214047 on 6147983

    My ongoing challenge has been using food as a reward.  For example, "I've had a really tough and productive week and I deserve a veggie supreme pizza."  It's become more apparent that this type of food reward, even with healthy foods is enforcing an "if-then" mental construct which re-enforces a conditional approch how I live my life.  This shows up in other parts (perfumes) in other areas of my life.  I view it as a hindrance to calm abiding and ease.  I find these insights enoyable and satisfyiing as they arise.  Perhaps someday that will be enough reward instead of acting on the reward impluse. :-)

  • 16 May 2018 4:29 PM
    Reply # 6237949 on 6147983
    Deleted user

    It is so helpful to read everyone's comments. Many of them resonate with me and offer ideas to experiment with and practice with change. Somewhere over time I've developed some habits such as eating really fast and not thoroughly chewing my food and sometimes doing something else while I am eating.  I think this has led to some responses by my body like reflux as well as a sense of not deeply appreciating what . gift food is and a human birth. So these past few weeks I have been experimenting with chewing slowly and multiple times and simply eating. It's surprising how it makes a huge difference to how I feel physically. 


  • 17 May 2018 3:09 PM
    Reply # 6240371 on 6147983

    One of my challenges around food and other "edible" substances is that I am often missing the ingredient of volition. After hearing several talks about the four nutriments I began remembering what a wonderful experience it is for me to eat meals during silent retreats. It came to mind quite naturally with the beautiful weather we were having this spring to serve breakfast in our butterfly garden. Breakfast became so much more enjoyable! There was no NPR news on the radio, but there were mocking birds singing. There was no reading the newspaper or getting caught up on emails, but there were beautiful orchids in bloom and butterflies and bees feeding on the various small flowers. There was no consuming anger and resentment about news along with my oatmeal or cold cereal, but there was the taste of fresh berries, bananas, or mangos and chopped nuts with the meal. There was no thinking about how to respond to this email or that Facebook post, but there were soft breezes and the sound of the neighbors wind chime.

    Impermanence! The summer rains have arrived and it's been too wet this week to eat outside. Will I continue my volition to eat a mindful breakfast? I made the switch back to serving our breakfast inside, but I open  the sliding doors and leave the radio off and the computer too. The mockingbirds are still singing and a young blue jay made an appearance today on the pool cage. Yes, with volition there is just being present to who and what shows up, and enjoying the company and the breakfast. 


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